Jan 12, 2026
Episode 1
14 mins
Fighting Healthcare's Misaligned Incentives
Episode Summary
This conversation focuses on where healthcare breaks once systems are live and incentives collide. We talk about where AI creates real value versus noise, why incentives still drive outcomes more than technology, and how failed implementations quietly destroy trust with employers and partners. We also dig into Direct Primary Care, point solution fatigue, and why relationships still matter more than pitch decks and promised ROI once real money is involved.
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00:00 Introduction and background
How HSAs and price transparency shaped Scott’s view on incentives
Why independent TPAs control more of healthcare than they realize
00:41 WLT’s buy vs build strategy
Choosing partnerships over trying to build everything
How “implementation purgatory” costs more trust than bad pricing
Customization beating rigid plan design in the real world
04:04 Primary care and incentives
Why primary care turned into a transaction instead of a relationship
How Direct Primary Care cuts downstream costs people fail to measure
06:09 AI in healthcare
Providers are using AI to increase billing leverage
Payers need AI defensively or they are guaranteed to overpay
09:02 Member navigation and decision support
Most employees do not understand how to use their health plan
Early guidance can stop unnecessary surgeries and escalation
10:01 Point solution fatigue
Why guaranteed ROI pitches have lost credibility
Trust still matters more than pitch decks and cold calls
Reputation compounds slowly and disappears instantly
12:05 Lightning round
The influence of Scott’s father on leadership and discipline
Which healthcare middlemen need to be eliminated
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