Jan 12, 2026

Episode 1

14 mins

Fighting Healthcare's Misaligned Incentives

Episode Summary

This conversation focuses on where healthcare breaks once systems are live and incentives collide. We talk about where AI creates real value versus noise, why incentives still drive outcomes more than technology, and how failed implementations quietly destroy trust with employers and partners. We also dig into Direct Primary Care, point solution fatigue, and why relationships still matter more than pitch decks and promised ROI once real money is involved.

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00:00 Introduction and background

  • How HSAs and price transparency shaped Scott’s view on incentives

  • Why independent TPAs control more of healthcare than they realize

00:41 WLT’s buy vs build strategy

  • Choosing partnerships over trying to build everything

  • How “implementation purgatory” costs more trust than bad pricing

  • Customization beating rigid plan design in the real world

04:04 Primary care and incentives

  • Why primary care turned into a transaction instead of a relationship

  • How Direct Primary Care cuts downstream costs people fail to measure

06:09 AI in healthcare

  • Providers are using AI to increase billing leverage

  • Payers need AI defensively or they are guaranteed to overpay

09:02 Member navigation and decision support

  • Most employees do not understand how to use their health plan

  • Early guidance can stop unnecessary surgeries and escalation

10:01 Point solution fatigue

  • Why guaranteed ROI pitches have lost credibility

  • Trust still matters more than pitch decks and cold calls

  • Reputation compounds slowly and disappears instantly

12:05 Lightning round

  • The influence of Scott’s father on leadership and discipline

  • Which healthcare middlemen need to be eliminated

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Scott Borden

SVP of Partnerships, WLT Software

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About
Scott Borden

Scott Borden is the SVP of Partnerships & Marketing at WLT Software, a pioneer in healthcare claims administration since 1979. He’s notoriously known as “the HSA Guy” with over 30 years in employee benefits.

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